The PHP Podcast 2026.01.15
This week on the PHP Podcast, Eric and John talk about Livewire 4 releases, Amazon Original Series ‘Betas’, New Iris AI Tool from TJ Miller, AI in the US Government, New PopOS 24.04 Desktop, and more…
Links from the show:
- https://laracasts.com/series/everything-new-in-livewire-4
- Upgrade Guide | Laravel Livewire
- Amazon Original Series, ‘Betas,’ Tackles the Startup Life | PCMag
- Iris, an AI that actually knows you
- Iris
- Pop!_OS 24.04 LTS Released: A Letter From Our Founder – System76 Blog
- Pentagon is set to welcome Musk’s Grok AI chatbot | AP News
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[05:18] Hey, John. Hey, Eric. Thanks for remembering to enable us.
[05:26] Trying to trying to help out behind the scenes when i can you do i don’t think people appreciate how much you do behind the scenes because i fumble the ball so frequently it’s uh it’s painful, nah you do not um uh thanks for hanging out we’re back for those of you that uh might have missed us um we’ve been back for a couple weeks so i don’t know where you’ve been but this is the official podcast of php architect and uh you know this is what we do we talk php and crap like that you know what i mean. And more JavaScript lately. JavaScript. JavaScript’s blowing up. I’m not a fan, but, you know, I can embrace. I can embrace. Who’s our partner today, Jen? Do we have a partner? Our partner today is going to be PHP Score. PHP Score? All right. We’re going to talk about them a little later because I forget what their hook is. I usually have hooks, but I forget. So we’ll talk about them in a little bit.
[06:28] But if you are joining us live and you’re seeing all the messages go along the side here, you’re like, hey, hey, I want to be part of that. I want to be I want to be that I want to be in that. You can do that by joining us over at our Discord channel at discord.phbrch.com. And yeah. And if you’re not watching live, I mean, hey, think about it someday. Subscribe to our YouTube channel, youtube.com forward slash phbrch. Hit notifications and it will let you know subscribe subscribe first then hit notifications then hit the thumbs up well actually to get fully notified you have to subscribe hit notify and then subscribe to the magazine that’s the only way it works.
[07:16] That may or may not be true hard to say and if you want a free subscription to the magazine Simply write for us. I’m just saying. That’s right. Actually, you can get a free issue anytime. Just, well, create an account if you don’t have an account. But Skimmer missed us last week. I know we should check that stuff, huh? See, we got Ennis Bucky in there. Busy Pixel, Skimmer, Supernova. I saw our male model in there earlier. Still there. Is he? Yep, still there. So yeah, we have our… What do you say, mail model? A model we ordered through the mail, or…
[07:59] Well, from our store, which you’re just giving shit away now. I don’t even know why we have a male model anymore. John, we’re going to talk about that here in a little bit. But yeah, if you haven’t checked out our store yet, you should do so. I need to add a few things. Maybe I’ll add something for, I don’t know. I don’t know. I mean, I kind of want to add something for tech, but like, what’s it said to add? You know, it’s like, nobody’s going to buy, why are you going to buy a conference T-shirt? You know what I mean? I don’t wear conference t-shirts that are given to me, but. Some people do. It doesn’t have to be a conference. It’s not necessarily a conference t-shirt. It’s a PHP Architect shirt that has PHP Tech on it. And maybe you get a free drink from us if we see you. I don’t know. That’s true. Hey, I like that idea. Maybe I’ll do a shirt. Hey, backhead. Weird name. I mean, I’m not judging or anything. John’s got a weirder name.
[08:57] What does that even mean?
[09:00] Jeff, Becca, joining us on X. I always forget that they can talk to us on X. It’s weird to me. But, you know, I have a t-shirt for Community Corner Podcast.
[09:13] Which, you know, Scott and many of his family members have purchased from us.
[09:20] Maybe I do a podcast t-shirt for us. And like you said, if we see you wearing it at the conference, and then maybe you’ll get something, I don’t know. I like doing things like that. I appreciate it. I like to show how much we appreciate people who appreciate us. That means anything. Yeah. And if you don’t know what we’re talking about by at tech, our conference in May, phbtech.io, check it out. See you there. How about that? We have actually some important information about that, John. We should probably touch on, but I haven’t shared my, I haven’t set up the share yet. Let me set up the share. You have not. You do that real fast. Just, just give me a second. Uh i don’t know why i don’t i don’t like being on the left side of the screen i got to be on the right side you always have to be right john yes we know this about you same thing with my wife we’re walking down the street i always have no actually with her i’m on the left never mind i need
[10:17] her on my right because she’s always right my kids uh you should talk to my kids someday, it drives well first thing i i don’t know if this is a regular thing between like married adults or not but beck and i my wife is uh we have a pretty serious height difference i’m i’m pushing six four six five and she’s like four seven no.
[10:45] It’s like five four five five five four i think it’s being generous but anyways we have a specific way we hold hands which is not i guess normal which i’ve never thought about like it’s always been the way we’ve done it and i i honestly have never given it much thought drives our kids crazy it’s like why don’t you hold hands like normal people and i don’t know if it’s a height difference i don’t know what it is but we have this way we interlock our our fingers and the only thing i do that i think is weird is my pinky has to be under her sleeve if she’s wearing a sleeve i don’t know why that is it’s.
[11:27] But yeah, so we have this demonstrated, like, I can’t even demonstrate it for you. We’d have to have the wife participate here so I can show you. But yeah, it’s weird. How do you hold hands? Do you guys just do this? Do you do like the normal, like, handshake upside down thing where you’re like holding hands? It depends. Sometimes we interlock. Sometimes it’s just holding hands like that without interlocking fingers. All depends on the moment. I don’t know. I can’t even describe it. But, yeah, it’s just the way our hands slip together. We don’t even think about it. All right, what do we have to talk about? I don’t know how we ended up talking about that. About tech or about hands? Tech. Let’s talk about tech. We got important news about tech, John. Yes. We have made the official declaration of when early bird pricing ends, and it is going to be January 31st. So get your ticket now. Prices will not be lower. They’re only going to go higher.
[12:28] So yeah, get your ticket now But there is a trick to this If you don’t get your ticket By that date for PHP Tech You could do it over at JSTech, For the same price as your PHP set.
[12:46] They both end the same time. So all I’m saying is if you appreciate these early bird pricings, you all better hope like John never leaves the company because like my end date would have been a month and a half ago. In the fact that we have all the speakers announced with all their talks and we haven’t officially published the schedule although it’s pretty much done i think because you’re thinking of two different things back in the day we did blind early bird where you have a even lower price up until that’s true you announce the speakers then there’s early bird and then at some point that ends and there’s regular price that’s true that is true yeah yeah we need to correct me but I still would have ended early bird a while back, but you’re right, actually, because now thinking about the other conference I help out, they’re still doing well, their early bird just ended and their conference is
[13:47] two months before our conference. So their conference is in March. Their early bird just ended on the whatever the… Actually, I think it ends today, as a matter of fact, the 15th. So, yeah. I guess I’m just… So what you’re pushing for is saying we should extend our early bird? No, no, just the opposite. I’m just saying. That’s kind of what I heard.
[14:11] All these speakers, man. Great, great talks here. I’m really excited about this. Really, really excited. Can I tell everyone how we screwed up on talks and confused people?
[14:25] As long as it doesn’t require us holding another track again like that one year, sure, why not? I confused a couple of speakers because all of a sudden we had three more people get accepted to speak. And they’re like, was this a mistake? I got a decline message and now I’m being accepted. And it turns out Eric and I figured out all of the hour-long talks. We didn’t talk about the tutorials at all. And after we chose all the hour-long talks, I took every other session in the app and just said, decline it and send the decline message. Keymails, tutorials, all of them. Just cross the board. Not thinking about it at all.
[15:09] So that’s what happened. We just chose our tutorials. Alina Holligan right there on the bottom left is giving one of them on BDD. All right. Tim Lytle’s given another one. Who? Tim Lytle right above her. Oh, okay. And there’s one more.
[15:30] Sarah Savage. Don’t know where they’re at. Sarah Savage. I saw their picture somewhere. I forget where, but yes. Sarah Savage. Three tutorials to choose from. Higher up. Gotta be. Keep going.
[15:46] Keep going. Keep going. Oh, there it is. Yeah so fun stuff fun fun stuff yep we got a new uh sponsor as well but uh we’re we’re just waiting for,
[16:05] logos and stuff to put up, keep an eye on the website. All the assets, yeah. Yeah, all the assets, that’s always fun. Actually, we have two, if you think about it, but yeah.
[16:16] So I told you, I don’t know if it was last week on the show, but I told you, I asked you if you wanted to roll your eyes, because I was going to a vegan steakhouse on Saturday. Oh, we didn’t talk about that on the show. I was going to ask about it. Yeah. So, I ended up going, it’s, you know, when you go to a traditional steakhouse, you got the atmosphere, right? Dim lights, nice atmosphere. So, that’s what this place is doing. It’s like a higher-end vegan restaurant because most of them are fast food type places.
[16:52] Go in, sit down. The food was absolutely delicious. But as we’re sitting there one when i made the reservation i’ve never been here so i didn’t know what the tables were like and it was a love seat option and my wife and i are going for a date night so i’m like sure let’s do the love seat option oh my god the table was so small that’s what a love seat is small table so there’s booths on the outside and then in the middle are these like love seats and the ones facing the middle, uh, have a bigger table and two more seats on the outside. But the ones on the side facing the booths outside are literally this tiny table with a little gap for people to walk by. And then the next table or the booth over there. So when the people sat down over there, we’re like, Hey, you mind if we join you? Cause it was that close. It was so weird and uncomfortable, but we’re sitting there, And this group of people walk by us and my wife goes, Hey, is that,
[17:58] that’s a girl from the show you’re watching right now. I’ve been watching a mythic quest on Apple TV and it’s all about the gaming industry. It’s just a fun sitcom. It’s very corny, but fun. And Ashley Birch, who plays one of the testers, Rachel in the show was there with her friends and had a meal. The whole time we’re like that’s her right we got to go ask her and say hi and like all this and i’m like i don’t want to bother somebody while they’re eating i’m just not going to right we stayed long enough to where they left before us and as she passes i’m like excuse me are you ashley she said yeah i’m like then i told her that i loved her character on mq mythic quest and just a quick little back and forth and then she’s up and i was like you didn’t want a picture or anything i’m like, now you always get pictures if you get nothing else duck agrees mythic quest is amazing i’m gonna have to go watch that i
[18:59] guess i i’ve been looking for a new show to get on so is this like a geeky show or yeah i i binged the whole thing it’s five seasons um yeah it there’s there’s a couple of oddities in it like the main plot line is fun but then every few episodes there’s like almost like a backstory that happens and some of them I got lost in and I’m like, this is kind of stupid, but all in all it was fun.
[19:29] Oh, man. There was a… I’m trying to remember what it was called. Everybody’s going to think it’s called Silicon Valley, which is another very popular show. That’s what Duck Mizzle just said in Discord. Oh, did he? He said similar to… Oh, it is similar to Silicon Valley. I like Silicon Valley, so that would be exciting to see. But there was a series before Silicon Valley. I’m trying to do a quick Google search right now, but there was a series before Silicon Valley that was only on Amazon Prime. Maybe I need to say Amazon Prime. That was kind of the same concept. It was, you know, guys starting off a startup sort of thing, and they were working out of an incubator sort of setup. that I thought was so much funnier than Silicon Valley. Uh when silicon valley came out i’m like oh this is like that other show just not as quite as funny although silicon valley went a lot longer and got funnier but uh i can’t
[20:40] remember what the hell it’s called betas maybe is it called betas oh let me see what betas is anyways um i always think about it and i always mean to look for it again and i forget and yeah that’s it betas if you want another funny show that the binge watch i don’t know if it’s still out there and it’s older it’s very old like if you think this is before silicon valley silicon valley is getting old look at look for betas on amazon prime it’s actually really hysterical i i need to go back very similar characters i need to go back to silicon valley because i think i only watched the first season, oh really yeah i i’ve actually re-watched that whole series before just because it was so funny and I knew I had missed things but I should go back and watch this one I don’t think I’ve re-watched this one but yeah so this is from 2013.
[21:39] Yeah so this is a pretty funny series like I said I don’t know if it’s still out there I don’t know how well it aged but it was really funny I remember thinking how funny it was when I watched it so check it out let me know what you think.
[21:56] I’ll put this, I’ll put all this stuff will be in our show notes for anybody, anybody curious. We’ll put it in our show notes. So I don’t want to call you out. Go for it. You kind of breezed by it, so I was going to let it go, but I don’t know if I can.
[22:17] You’re a,
[22:19] bar for really good. Let’s just put it like this. The vegan’s palates are very different than you know other people’s palates right it’s probably true for every everybody who has a certain like like maybe you know if you’re you’re asian you eat a lot of chinese food your palate is accustomed to that and whatever i i refuse to believe you after that one in portland when it was really good it was like yeah it’s not really good it’s barely edible. I don’t know the the i don’t know what it was it was like a vegan chinese place i i met you guys there from the airport oh yeah i mean that wasn’t fantastic it was just an option i don’t remember being you were pretty like i liked it i liked it no yeah i liked it it’s a it’s a whole palette thing so uh i i’m glad you enjoyed i’m glad you found something really good i would be we got to go and we gotta go and sit at the at the at the in the love seat you’ll love you’ll absolutely
[23:27] oh yeah i won’t do it any other way so so i did the sampler which had the mushroom oh we’re talking about this okay well you you asked about it and the the beyond steak the mushroom was so much better it was delicious god i can’t wait to go back all right did you have you done any coding this week uh very little uh most most of my coding this has been basically uh. Pissing off Joe Ferguson from our team because I don’t realize first thing, maybe I’m not very clear about my direction. The one big one is we had an issue. There was an issue with the PHP round table website and I felt bad because I feel bad about PHP round table as a topic. Cause I, I, I really just don’t give it the love it needs. And I keep meaning to figure out a way where I can start it back up. And, you know, I do a terrible job. Anyway, you had that great topic one recently. It just never came to fruition. And again, that’s my fault because the first time we tried to schedule it,
[24:39] we couldn’t get everybody in line. And then I was like, all right, well, you know, I’ll reschedule it. We had to do something. Oh, I think we were going to, I think we’re going to Longhorn. So I’m like, okay, I’ll, I’ll circle back around on this after Longhorn and try to get it back on the schedule. And I just haven’t. And I, again, feel terrible about that. I should do it because it was a great, it’s a great topic. It’s not a topic that’s going away in terms of me either. So anyways, I feel bad about the topic of round table in general, but, you know, Joe caught an issue with the website and it was, you know, it was a pretty big issue and we had to address it. And I had told Joe, I’m like, Hey, I’m like, just do, um, Can you just do a composer, you know, upgrade in NPM upgrade? And then, you know, I’ll get in there and I’m going to upgrade everything. I wanted to upgrade the framework. I couldn’t remember the framework was.
[25:38] Fortunately, it was already on 11, Laravel 11. So, you know, I had in my head that I had to go do all this stuff. And so I did, right? I did it all. And I, you know, I’m like working like this, the, this, the other thing, Like I’m not working on one thing. I’m rarely ever working on one thing. And actually we just talked about how I handled that. I basically suck Claude on it. I’m like, Hey Claude, you know, upgrade the shit for me. I’m busy. I’ll come back here about an hour and see where you’re at. Um, so, uh, you know, but like, I’m working on so many things that I’m not like babysitting, you know, certain, you know, everything I’m working on. And so I do all this stuff. I push it out. And having Joe in the rotation is a very new experience for me, right? Because we’ve never had a dedicated sysops person. And the sysops people we had before working on stuff who were doing a split duty, like Kaylin and Frank, we really just had them focus on the clients,
[26:44] the client environments, right? So like things like php architect php roundtable you know tech uh php tech um website uh, John and I just handled that stuff ourselves, right? And so, you know, I do everything.
[27:04] We did the bare minimum. Yeah, really. I said we handled it. I didn’t say we did a good job handling it.
[27:13] Yeah, so I did everything. I push everything out and, you know, whatever. I really don’t think that much about it. And then I sit down and, like, I get this message. And, you know, he was nice enough because we have a lot of transparency in the company where we have a lot of conversations in Slack channels that other people can join. Not everybody’s a part of every Slack channel, but, like, everybody can be a part of it, unless it’s, like, a private Slack channel. We have a couple of those, not too many. So the idea of being like somebody somebody is not on a project today but gets on a project in a month they can pop into the slack channel and then they can go back and look at all that, previous conversation so we don’t have a lot of dm conversations um so i sat down and i saw i had a dm from joe and i’m like oh and of course i always get concerned right when i see dms like somebody is you know something serious has happened where they need to talk to us privately
[28:14] right and i see it and he’s like hey man i i kind of took care of all that php roundtable stuff and And yeah, you know, you just, you just ignored my PR and just deployed yours.
[28:28] I’m like, wait, you have a PR?
[28:32] I’m like, shit, man, I didn’t tell you to take care of all of it, but thanks.
[28:39] He’s like, I took care of it and it worked. You took care of it and blew it up.
[28:44] So yeah, and then I did it to him again recently. I forget what the last one was because we’re going through, we’re doing SOC compliance and everything. So we’re like kind of going through and inventorying stuff. And Joe’s really kind of getting in there and starting to take care of a lot of things. And I recently just did something again. I think it was another update. Yeah. Yeah. I think that was at Arsosoft’s channel. I’m like, dude.
[29:09] I don’t tell you man i’m pretty sure i told him uh i would take care of it but i don’t know whatever i’m surprised joe’s still working with us he’s gotta be that guy gets tired of me very quickly i can tell yeah everyone does at the company we have a lot of vegan conversation what the hell what are we talking about i think that’s true for any cuisine yeah i agree right vegan places are very, uh, a lot and delicious. Yep. I agree. Skimmer, Derek, I agree with you. Derek R. Always good to see you, Derek. Gonna miss you this month. I’m about to take it to Tech this year.
[29:48] Yeah, I’m not coming to Tech. Made it very clear. Not this year. God damn it. I know. Him, Sarah. Uh, for the record, they’re not coming because of us or of Tech. Goddamn government. Listen, Have you seen the announcement from our friend TJ Miller? I’m sorry. I’m switching topics. Yeah. We’re going to get back to that in a second. Anyways, I have. And you’re going to be mad at me. Let’s talk about it.
[30:17] You’re in already? God dang it. Shh.
[30:22] Yes.
[30:25] Meanwhile, I’m like, our company has been a very long time GitHub sponsor. I’m like, we have to be one of the first in, right? Right? I’m sure. I’m sure. I’m sure. Well, he even says he’s going to let GitHub sponsors in. So that’s how he’s going to do it. Yeah. That’s how you’re going to get access is through that. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, so if you sponsor TJ on GitHub, explain it first. Right. So TJ recently released Iris, which is an AI that actually knows you. And it sounds very interesting as far as it, does it like scrape all of your information from various places and just learns about you as you’re having conversations with it?
[31:14] Yeah, I haven’t fired mine up yet. I mean, I haven’t, I don’t know, John. We don’t have access to the code yet.
[31:23] Yeah, I don’t know. That’s what I, kind of, my expectations. I feel like I always set my expectations a little too high for these sort of announcements. It’s not TJ specifically, but like, oh, hey, this AI’s got this thing now. I’m like, oh, this is going to be great. And then I get in there, I’m like, yeah, okay, not that great. But, yeah. so yeah i’m very excited about uh what he’s proposing here and what’s even more exciting is uh that it’s actually i don’t know why it’s like this i should talk to him about this why isn’t this just a service like why are you giving this to people uh you know it’s it’s it seems like it would be a good service but like i said i haven’t actually used it yet uh clearly because you know waiting for access but uh yeah it’s it’s out there it’s going he’s very close to releasing it um yeah it’s going to be exciting i i want that like i’m getting notifications from amazon’s like
[32:22] hey you’re getting upgraded to alexa plus i’m like okay you know i want you to know more about me because i don’t want to have to keep repeating myself for certain things but Like there’s also certain information I don’t want you to know about me, but if I’m hosting it, like if it’s code I’m hosting, I’m definitely like more open. Like, yeah, get in there. Like Olama, I keep wanting to figure out how to get Olama. My, my, myself hosted Olama. To just really get your teeth into my email, my calendar. I want to be able to talk to you like I’m talking to a normal person and get that information back. I see all these setups. That’s another thing that got me going down the innate end path. As I saw all these people, I was like, oh, yeah, I’ve got this recipe where you can talk to Olama through Telegram. And it’s like it just never works like i’m hoping it to work so we’ll see how this one goes
[33:23] i’m excited or or we could just be misreading this all together i don’t know um this is this is actually his blog post uh if you’re not a fan of tj miller you really should become one this guy is like i think he’s one of the most underrated smart people in the laravel community Not that, you know, people like foo-foo him, but like he’s working on huge shit. And I don’t think it gets nearly the exposure like other people and things that they work on. TJ blows it out of the water for me. Like I’m obviously a huge fan. I mean, the guy, I’ve had him over at my house, him and his family. I’ve been a fan of TJ Miller for a very long time. So I get very excited when I see him do something because I know how.
[34:13] Passionate and how deep he gets into this stuff yeah what did you have anything more to say about that because i feel like i kind of hijacked you no i’m excited that you already have access to it i’m curious about it did not say i have access i meant had some access had uh i just i saw it come come across my linkedin uh recently so had to share so this this is his post i i thought it was interesting that he did the post on LinkedIn or maybe that’s just where he shared it. Maybe he shared it on X as well. Probably. I didn’t even think about that. Um, the first thing is weird that he’s Thomas Miller on LinkedIn. I never even thought that was his real name. I never thought TJ Miller was his real name, but yeah. So he says over the weekend, I announced Iris, Iris, an AI that actually knows you. The docs are released, wrote a blog post, um, and Iris and some of its evolution and gapped a bunch about it on a podcast.
[35:17] Oh, that’s right. He has a podcast now. I forgot about this. Again, very good podcast.
[35:25] My podcast intake has been just, like, I’ve stopped. I’ve cold turkey podcasts. I used to listen to so many podcasts every day, and then all of a sudden I just stopped. And I don’t know why I stopped it. I don’t know if the, yeah, I thought the quality would have gone down. But, yeah, I don’t listen to nearly the podcast. I should. TJ’s actually got one of the better ones out there. Yeah, for me it was always when I was commuting. It was a lot easier to listen to podcasts at that time. Now, working from home, my commute is 30 seconds, so kind of stupid to fire it up. Yeah, I think that was my time, too, was taking my dog to the dog park and going for a walk and now a different dog.
[36:16] But back goes with me to the dog cart now. So I have her to, to talk with. So yeah, maybe that was it. Maybe, maybe I just broke out of the routine because the routine itself broke. I don’t know. Yeah. Interesting. So yeah, check it out. Uh, he always does fantastic stuff. Um, yeah.
[36:38] And now we can hear from our sponsor. Let’s talk about our sponsor. Wait, hold on. I got a private chat in here. Eric, do the sponsor, you idiot. Oh, right.
[36:52] That’s the way I talk. You know me. I can’t find your score one. Here it is.
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[37:43] Thank you, PHP Score. We should do our PHP Score and, you know, release it. Let people see it. We haven’t actually done that, so we should do that at some point.
[37:59] But these are too many podcast subscriptions well i’m happy you’re here duck i call him duck we’ve known each other for a while now yeah personally basis yeah, uh yeah actually that’s a that’s a i i back i don’t know if it’s the same now and we actually record, a lot earlier than we did ugly like i think in the end of ugly we we just switched to three o’clock as well right yeah but php ugly was kept me on my game because uh back then when we were recording at nine o’clock we’d wrap up at 10 and like for the first couple of years when we were like learning how to do podcasting it would take days for me to get the podcast out but i had i I’d finally gotten my workflow tight and it would take me a few hours, you know, and I could typically get done in an hour or two, but if I waited too long, I would get like messages from people over in Europe who were waking up for their commute on the train saying,
[39:07] Hey, where’s the podcast? Like this is where I listened to the podcast. Where is it? Oh man. All right. It’s coming. It’s coming right now.
[39:17] Yeah i think i think that’s where 90 of all podcasts i listen to are through commutes yeah i mean that makes sense okay uh i want to talk about um another card you had on here not php related and i haven’t sniped it um it just was very weird timing and i really want to find out what it’s about why was it very weird timing so uh good i was just gonna say what the card was but did you have something you want to say before yeah yeah that way it was around the the pop os has released 24.04 lts version with their new cosmic desktop it’s they’ve been working on the cosmic desktop for years teasing it and now it’s officially released yeah that was actually going to be one of those things all right first thing before i start ranting because i i’ve already taken up enough of everybody’s time why did you put this uh on your board, Just because it’s something that I think we would talk about. No specific reason. I saw it come out.
[40:26] It was shared with me somewhere else, and I was like, something to talk about. I know that if you’re a System76 fan, you’re going to hate me.
[40:37] I wasn’t sure if you were linking that or not. I wasn’t going to bring it up. Eric and I bought System76 servers years ago. We’d switched from our Mac laptops. I think it was right around COVID time, because we just weren’t doing remote work anymore. So we’re like, let’s get really nice desktops. And we want system 76. And we use that for quite a long time. And then I forget why I think there were a few things I needed work wise. And I’m like, I’m going back to the Mac for that. And I’ve kept my system 76 here. And then for the past couple of years at this point the only thing i used on the machine was to play rocket league, and not just rocket league but an unsupported version of rocket league because it’s not officially supported on linux so if there are any issues it just don’t use linux right and, because one of our ex-employees is an employee there talking with them a lot i finally broke down and put windows
[41:44] on that machine and still the only thing i use it for is to play rocket league but now it’s on windows yeah so i actually remember this and this is why i i was going to bring this up so. The reason I switched, and John and I were kind of in agreement when we decided to switch, was almost because of PHP tech and the way we were editing videos after tech. So after the first tech, I did video editing on my Pop! OS machine, and it worked. I mean, it was fine. But the more we got into it and the more we were trying to do specific things, Like John was, would use the Adobe Premiere, which doesn’t run on Linux natively. And he was like, oh yeah, all you gotta do is this, this, and this. And I’m like, fuck, I’m like, I’m not using, you know, Adobe. So, so there was a time there where I’d fire up my Mac, Mac machine to fire up Adobe and do a few things. And just kind of got, I think, to the point where I was like,
[42:55] this is ridiculous. For me, I was just talking to a client about this today. For me, all my work is through a browser and a terminal. Everything I use is across all the platforms. So for me to switch back from Pop! OS to Mac, it wasn’t this move to Mac that I was excited about. It was a necessity to use an app that I don’t use on the regular. And since everything else acted and behaved the same, my terminals were the same, PHP Storm was the same, you know, browsers, Slack, everything was the same. Like, there was nothing… There was no reason for me to go, you know, to keep switching back and forth. It’s the same experience for me. Right. We stuck with the Mac. And then we did start working remote again where we meet up and do some coding. So, you know, that was nice because, like John said, these were desktops. We did it because we wanted the extra RAM. Like, these are beefy desktops, too, man. They’re huge.
[44:04] Tons of RAM. And actually, funny enough, not a lot of hard drive space, but it just wasn’t. I think we had maxed it out for the time. And it’s terabytes, but it’s not like crazy. I think our Macs now are like, what, eight terabytes or something? I have no clue.
[44:23] Plenty, no matter what it is.
[44:27] When I was finally coming to this realization of, okay, I’m just going to use my Mac again so I don’t have to keep doing this, I was saying, and this is, mind you, years ago, if they can just get this Cosmic desktop out, that would be enough motivation for me to stick with this, to stick with this as my primary machine. And they just kept just dragging it out and dragging it out. And the cool thing about Cosmic, it’s Rust-based. It was supposed to reimagine a bunch of… Things like the terminal and stuff and and i just i just wanted it because it was rust-based to be honest with you again i i don’t care as long as i have a terminal in a browser that’s like 90 percent of my workload but again i i couldn’t even get there but i always used my system 76 machine unlike john so i used mine i just put it in the closet and use it as a remote box through the terminal, because it’s just easy. I mean, I wasn’t going to lose that.
[45:35] And then recently, and it was actually very devastating, the System76 machine started acting up, which it had done before, which was another reason why I just had to say I wanted to do a fresh install. And I’m like, God, I don’t want a fresh install. So anyways, so I’ve always used that as like a server. Basically, where I ran, like, I think I had, like, 50 Docker containers running off, just a bunch of different stuff on there. I mean, just, oh, man, I couldn’t even tell you how much stuff was running on there. Anyways, I ran that for, like, a couple of years. I loved it. And then it crashed on me again, right? So I’m like, and then it did a hard crash. It wasn’t, like, the last time where it was acting strange and being weird. It did a hard crash. So i i i blew it away again it was devastating because i didn’t you know i didn’t back stuff up correctly and i backed up all the back containers but
[46:37] i didn’t have to go through them all and i was having trouble reinstalling pop os uh from the the the recovery partition so like mac pop os has a recovery partition so you can just install from there and i would install I would do all the upgrades and then, you know, it would start… Freaking out on me again i couldn’t even get to the point where i could install stuff on it and, two weekends ago i’ve been really wanting to so i have i have a version of arch linux running on my raspberry pi and i’m like it’s manjaro is what it’s called and they had a build for the raspberry very pi system and i wanted that on my desktop when i was going to try to keep it as my desktop but i’ve been wanting to run it on the system 76 machine for a while uh so i i got i’m like you know what i’m just gonna install and jaro on this thing you know screw this pop it’s not so i installed it running fantastically mind you
[47:46] uh super fast i don’t know if that’s the os or or what but man it’s quick i don’t have a lot on there still and then i finally see this release i’m like that’s not back on there god damn it so yeah i don’t know if i had told you that and that’s why you put this out there no yeah no shit that’s funny yeah he john has moved to uh windows and I thought that was funny. Okay.
[48:21] We teased earlier about me giving away merchandise. I wanted to go back to it because I thought it was funny. You know, that’s not how companies make money, right? No, no, I get it.
[48:39] Through the app that we use to sell merchandise now, we can create basically a giveaway code we use it for our employees like hey go buy a shirt you know, We have done that, right? Am I making that up? Anyway, that’s one way to use that. And for some reason, the other day, I’m like, I’m just going to give away a hat. Why not? And I created the URL and then I put it behind php8atme, which is our URL shortener. And it’s just first one to claim gets a free hat or however I did it. That was beautiful the way you did it, by the way. Yeah. Just drop the link in Discord. Didn’t say anything. And I kept like I looked for the first five minutes but then I had to leave and I think it was claimed within an hour or two someone saw it and got the hat,
[49:33] never said never reacted didn’t respond and it said nothing in discord about it, but the next day I see that they bought a ticket to PHP Tech oh that’s awesome I don’t want to call them out because maybe there’s a reason they’re not That wasn’t a requirement, by the way.
[49:53] Like, I got a free hat. Might as well get a tech now. So, yeah. Another reason why you want to join our Discord. Apparently, John just gives away stuff in it. And I have to admit, I thought that was beautiful. When I saw that, I’m like, that is just because we love doing stuff like that. I’m like, that’s just awesome, man. So, yeah. I don’t know how often it happened, but it was fun. So I do want to call out, oh, this is sold out. I have this one, too. This is one of the ones that I rarely wear. Now I have to wear it because it’s sold out and nobody else can get it. There we go. Look at that. That looks so much better. So much more professional. You can do this. Do, like, the Gilligan thing. Except your A is crooked. Is my A? Oh. Oh. There we go.
[50:47] That’s how the kids are wearing it, John. Do, like, a door thing. You can do all sorts of things. Um, so the one thing I do want to point out, I’m not, I’m not sure what hat they, they got, I think you gave away the ball cap. That one right there. Yeah. Yeah. So you guys, you guys, you can pick colors. Like when John or whenever anybody puts a discount code in for a product, if there are multiple colors, you can, you can choose among the colors. Like personally. Or if there’s multiple sizes, you can choose on the size too. Right. Multiple sizes. Yeah. This is my favorite one. As a matter of fact, I was going to wear this one today, and I have sweat stains on it because I wear it too much, and I’m really pissed off about it, and I have to get it clean. But, yeah, if we get away a t-shirt or something, check out the sizes and colors because we have multiple colors, so you’re not tied to whatever color is the default image. Yeah.
[51:49] Yeah. So, yeah, it’s cool stuff, man. I really, and for what it’s worth, the quality so far has been spot on. It’s been really good quality. I think the only one we didn’t do, and it’s not in our store, were the polos that you see us wearing. I think John tried it, and we just liked this brand that he had bought before we had the store. We just liked this brand better. I would put them on there, but it’s not. I mean, the quality was fine. Like if I had bought it before this, I would have been fine with it. It was just, but these were also 50% more that these are not cheap. I did go a little higher in there for company swag. Have you got a hoodie yet? I do. And I do wear it. Dude, I love the hoodie. Yeah. The hoodie is hands down. The hats are really good too. I do enjoy the hats. I mean, uh, the everything. When we say it’s a good quality, I mean, it really is a good quality. Yeah, so check it out. We haven’t gotten a complaint yet.
[52:57] Not saying that we won’t get a complaint, but we haven’t gotten a complaint yet. Yeah, some good stuff out there. See, this is where I screwed up. This was when I first started doing it. I didn’t realize you could add multiple colors. I was like doing these light mode, dark mode ones. So I actually have to go through and clean this one up. Although, actually… Actually, I think there was a reason for this because I had to do different, what you call it, stickers. So I couldn’t change this between these colors. Right. You know what I mean? So this one’s got the black. The one I think I would have done differently instead of Vi, I think I would have done Vin. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I’ve been thinking about this one a lot. I think I’m going to do another version of this. I wear that one i like it but i think like some people see that and they just see six versus bye oh six yeah well and i actually had a friend’s name v and
[53:57] that’s how they spelled it vi, and so yeah yeah i think you’re right i think i need to redo this one. Go with then maybe go with a different style but yeah i like i like i like this slogan it’s one we created ourselves so yeah good stuff man check check on our store and if you have an idea of something you’d like uh let us know well i’m happy to throw stuff in there uh this is where you come in and buy the elephants now by the way do everything through here but yeah if there’s something else you want uh if if it’s something i can put in here i will and yeah.
[54:36] Cool all right oh i don’t think we yeah we it that that is store.phparch.com yeah store store.php i wonder if we should change the swag no store because swag it sounds like you’re getting it for free yeah so yeah store store.phparch.com yeah we can talk about, talk about live wire go for it talk a little live wire jump you know i’m a live wire fiend right, i do know that yeah somebody was it was it duck nizzle asked in discord if we’re going to talk about it and i looked over at your list and i saw it on there so i was like yep we’re going to, oh i i didn’t even see what it was that i don’t think there’s a particular topic they want to talk about i was going to talk about the upgrade um yeah that’s probably what it was is light wire four. Yeah. So light wire four is out. Uh. I i kept trying to like do a list of what’s new there and i actually wanted to install it and play with a little bit i haven’t done
[55:45] that like this just came out i think this week i think i feel like it just came out this week and caleb i like the guy i love the guy uh but he just like i don’t know he starts talking about things it’s like okay man but what like what else is there like show him more stuff and and he really he downplays some of the stuff like he’s like oh yeah yeah if you want to do this extremely difficult and like almost impossible to do by hand thing i’ve created this one little command you can use it’s like no like that’s like a lot of work you put into that so i haven’t i haven’t had a chance to play with it yet uh i want to play with it um i saw i saw i i don’t think this is a an official slogan but i saw him mention somewhere about uh i can’t believe it’s not js or something like that like a player on i can’t believe it’s not butter and i’m like yeah that’s like that’s perfect man so yeah he’s got some good
[56:46] stuff lots of videos out there um i don’t know if there’s one concise place to go but um and i I know not everybody’s a Laracast person, but there is a series on Laracast for LiveWire 4. You know what? I don’t know. And I don’t know how to tell this, if it’s free or not. Have you installed LiveWire 4 yet?
[57:12] I have not. Because I know you’re a LiveWire 4. I think it just came out. Ah. So, yeah, I have not installed it yet. Everything new in LiveWire 4. Let me see if this is free. I’m not logged in.
[57:27] There’s a Play Now play series. Yeah, there’s a Play Now. So it looks like it’s a free series. Don’t hold us to that. We don’t know. Yeah, I’ll throw this in the show notes. If somebody wants to give it a watch and let us know if the whole series is free or not, we will make those corrections next week. But there is a series that at least looks like it starts off free in the lettercast. And they typically are. Schemer says they’ve been using it since the beta dropped, and they actually got a PR in there that fixed the breaking changes docs. So thank you for contributing. Yeah. I didn’t know you were a big Lightwire person. Now I want to know more about you and everything you do because not, I don’t get too many people on the live wire bandwagon. Um, it’s not so, it’s not so shockingly new anymore either. So I think, I think it’s one of these, I think it’s become one of those projects that the, uh, Laravel community just kind of takes for granted.
[58:30] Like, Oh yeah, we got live wire now. So, you know, whatever. But that being the deal. Oh, all right. I want to talk about this cause it’s terrifying me. And, um, Again, I know.
[58:46] I’m breaking my own rule, no politics, but my God, we can’t talk about politics anymore. Like our industry is talking about it. We, yeah, we can’t not talk about it anymore because our industry is just so ingrained into just day-to-day living in our, in our world. And then we have administrations that just, I don’t know what the hell’s going on anymore. Like it’s, it’s, it’s absolutely bonkers. So for the record, I have been a long proponent of the idea of doing some sort of licensing for our industry. I say that with some trepid, you know, like, I’m not saying you need a license to be a web developer. Right. But I do think there are certain aspects of our industry that if you get involved with and you want to do commercially, you should have some sort of certification or license or something for AI is very much one of those. But we don’t. It’s just the world we live in. And I mean, I’m not super bummed about it, but I see stuff like this. It terrifies me.
[01:00:07] So here in the U.S., we have a bunch of crazy stuff going on. Anyways, the Pentagon is embracing Musk-Grock-AI chat box as it draws global outcry. Okay, so if you’re not on X anymore, or Twitter, as, you know, what’s it called? Colloquially. Colloquially, no, yeah, Twitter. there uh you know grok is an ai engine that you can talk to in a thread of a post to facts check or ask it a question or and it’ll give you a response it also has like a whole nother interface you can talk to it like chat gbt the issue is it has very few like boundaries and And the big outcry lately is the creeps on X are using it for child porn and crap like that. Like all this really bad stuff. And, you know, Grok just does it. Hey, make this person neck in a bikini or something. It does it. It’s horrible. It’s horrible. So that’s terrifying, right? And, of course, Musk has a connection to the current administration.
[01:01:31] And, you know, for whatever it’s worth, if you don’t like it or not, you shouldn’t like it because it’s been horrible. Anyways, so I see this. I’m like, okay, this is like a marketing thing. Whatever. You know, they want to show that they’re using AI and blah, blah, blah. But it’s probably going to be very superficially used.
[01:01:54] No. Pete Hexteth, this idiot, who’s in charge of all this, says, very soon we will have the world’s leading AI models on every unclassified, which is where I thought this conversation was going to end because he said it, it doesn’t, unclassified and classified network throughout our department. Understand he is the department of defense right the pentagon like no it’s the department of war come on get it straight the the actual core of our government’s military posture this i swear to god this quote right here sounds like something from like a movie about some site you know how sci-fi and cyber terminators took over the world. You know, it sounds like they would run like this news clip of somebody saying this. And had we watched it, we’d be like, who would be dumb enough to put AI in classified networks? That would just be bonkers. Yeah.
[01:03:12] I can’t, I can’t, I can’t, I can’t, I can’t, I can’t live in this world anymore, man. It’s crazy. It’s another timeline.
[01:03:22] It is a bonkers world. I used to, you know, as a kid, Boy Scout, it was always USA, USA, you know, Pledge of Allegiance. You know, I love the country.
[01:03:36] But to see the things happening now, it just scares the hell out of me. Like invading other countries, like that’s not supposed to be the U S. Although I realize we’ve done in the past with one where we’re at now with the native Americans, but typically kidnap presidents from other countries. No, you’re right, John. So here, I’m going to stress to you what I keep telling myself, right? Because I feel like.
[01:04:03] This administration is making it like to be like an evil thing to feel like you want to be patriotic and feel proud to be an American. I think proud to be American is what’s going to allow us to correct the shit. And I understand they think they’re taking over. Yeah. They, they, they’re coining all the phrases now they’re, they’re defining what it’s, it is to be proud to be American. And I’m telling you, this is not who we are. That’s all I can keep saying is like, this is not proud America. This is not who we are as a country. This is not what we’re founded on. What we’re going through right now is very bad. And it really mirrors other countries who have also gone through bad times in their existence. So I’m hopeful we’re able to correct course. Correct. I’m hopeful the people who are doing this are held accountable, but damn, man, man, I need to fast forward to the end of this movie because this is horrifying.
[01:05:17] I wish I could too. Yeah. And the movie just started, unfortunately. They’re still doing the intro credits and shit. It’s like, God damn it. I need this to be over.
[01:05:31] So yeah that was a i don’t want to end the show on a bummer and this is our company and so you know we try to be very filtered about you know expressing too many personal opinions and things but.
[01:05:47] Damn, man, it’s hard. It’s hard not to, not to take a stand because this is the problem, right? It’s like in other countries where these bad things are happening, they happen because good people didn’t want to take a stand or, you know, just said, okay, well, you know, we’ll let this play out and see what the next thing is. We’re getting to the point in there, you know, yeah. Killing them. We were killing people on our own streets. You know we have stormtroopers shooting you know innocent people it’s god damn it man like it’s gotta stop the masked on like there’s no identification can you imagine the fear people have being like they’re just being dragged off the streets as if you don’t know if it’s, ice or a gang member like here’s the thing like they could even be like they can play the, political card where they just say hey this happened we’re looking into it we’re going to we’re going to investigate we’ll figure out you know we’ll figure out all the
[01:06:54] sides and stuff and understand what that’s not what happens like you know within an hour of that event you had the highest people in our administration saying that person was a was a domestic terrorist and it’s like wait what the fuck are you even doing like show us that you’re doing your job it oh man god damn it i i’m gonna stop talking about it i’ll stop talking about it but yeah.
[01:07:22] For anybody else interested uh tron gate has version 2 out so,
[01:07:29] it’s just as bad that’s almost as horrible okay we’re talking about shit stuff let’s talk about tron gate too okay so that’s a carryover from other podcasts there was a whole back and forth about this tron gate guy he’s i hate him but i can’t even i didn’t know who he was for the longest time and he kept poking the bear so i had to watch one of his videos and now i hate the guy now i have a i have a formed opinion of him and he he sucks that’s right duck nizzle v2 which we’re pretty sure what’s supposed to be the whole Trongate thing was that they would never, do V1, would never use Composer. Yeah, exactly.
[01:08:12] I’m not even going to put this in the show notes, but yeah. There’s a video out there. I couldn’t even watch the video. I watched the guy talk for about 20 seconds, and I’m like, okay, I’m done caring.
[01:08:24] Yeah. Yeah, that’s a deep cut for anybody who was a PHP Ugly fan, but yeah. I have to change it up somehow. I happen to pull up the site, and those in the U.S. Know he’s got the announcement, and then right next to it, something about Charlie Kirk. No, he doesn’t. Does he really? I swear. I swear. Okay, I’m pulling it up here. Wait, I’m not seeing what you’re seeing. I’ll give you the URI that I’m looking at. Oh, okay.
[01:09:02] I’ve heard this about him, actually. Yeah. Yeah, I’ve heard this about him. Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep. Yeah, that’s funny. Oh, he has a whole little new section. That’s funny. Okay. We’re not going to talk about this, John. No, I know, I know. How do we end on him? 1,100 likes for it on GitHub. I can’t believe there’s 1,100 people out there that do this. Oh, my gosh. Okay. Yeah, if anybody knows the guy and you want to tell him we talk shit about him, make sure you spell my name correctly. Fuck that asshole.
[01:09:45] Okay, John. I’m bummed. I want to end the show. Can we be done? Or do you have something good to end it on? Give something away, John. I almost did. I almost did.
[01:10:00] Let’s do it. Let’s do one live, man. Let’s see if we can take something. What do you guys want us to give away? I’m giving something away. I was going to say, I’m already out. I’m just going to do it. We’re not doing hoodies. We’re not doing hoodies. Do something else. Do a hat. Do a hat. Wait, you did a hat already. Do something else. All right. Got it. Um, how about, remember we’re on a delay. So people are like just hearing, we’re going to give something away. And what do you want? And they’re going to say, I’ll do this.
[01:10:32] Let’s try it. Let’s do this. Yeah.
[01:10:38] Before you post it, don’t post it yet. Don’t post it yet. So we’re only going to post this in our Discord channel. So if you’re on one of the other platforms and you want a chance and you’re on a time delay, so clock’s ticking, you might want to jump into our Discord or at least jump in our Discord moving forward. But we’re giving something away. You want to give the bucket hat away? Do that. I could. I was doing a t-shirt. Tell me, oh, you’re doing a t-shirt? Yeah, do a t-shirt. That’s fine. T-shirt’s good. We’ll give a hat away. We have three hats we can give away, different styles. So we’ll do a hat shirt.
[01:11:20] Did you post it? Not yet. Because…
[01:11:27] Hang on about two i mean three two one like how quick oh you didn’t even do the short url very you’re evil you’re evil like somebody can’t even look at this and be like oh i see it why are there two links though because i might have given away three you can’t what are you doing.
[01:11:52] Why would you do that you should have posted them separately you’re killing me you’re not in charge of this anymore you’re not in charge of this anymore john you give away too much shit, okay now i’m very curious about like how how well it’s going to be this would be a good time for you guys to find out that there’s a there’s a bug in in our store that allows you to multiple people use the same code at the same time as in like 30 seconds, well one was already taken one’s been claimed oh that’s right you can only click on one at a time oh that’s that was actually really smart two have been claimed two have been claimed, alright this has been fun,
[01:12:36] that was really cool I’m very I’m very excited man if you if you’re the ones that claimed them,
[01:12:47] give us a give it a holler in discord let us know there’s still one out there, they’re all gone they’re all gone.
[01:12:57] Buddy Jeffrey Jeffrey Jeffrey good job Jeffrey we just let everybody know Jeffrey without your permission,
[01:13:09] we do see the other two in here dude that was quick man that was all within a minute all three of them that was fun nice Jeffrey good job,
[01:13:22] Duck, you weren’t one of them, though. I mean, I’m glad you love us. What do you mean he wasn’t? Huh? What do you mean he wasn’t? Oh, Jesus Christ, I don’t know why I thought his real name was Duck.
[01:13:40] I call him Duck all the time.
[01:13:45] I did the same thing with NS Bucky. When we would go out to lunch with the guy, You know, obviously we know his real name and talk to him and I would keep calling him in a Spucky the whole time.
[01:13:57] Yes, Derek. For the next time we do this, it does ship to the UK and it handles the VAT and everything. We went through all the trouble to set that up. He wasn’t asking. He was asking somebody else another question. Oh, shit. well now you guys know the the store is set up to ship all around the world so uh be sure to do that all right you’re doing doing your tech talk risky original i need to i’m gonna dm you i need to know who you are so i can add you to our speaker channel yes yeah all the uh all the speakers have a little secret discord channel that uh they get to be in and share information so all righty now we’re running long that was a lot of fun that that’s addicting man like i could want to do that every week not that we will but that was fun man i bet now we got to see if our viewership increases next week and see okay listen if our if our we we’re not going to tell you what so we have a view and it’s not a completely honest view like we can only see certain
[01:15:15] platforms but if the view we see doubles next week we’ll do this again. I don’t know if I’m saying we’ll do three, but we’ll do, yeah. If it doubles, we’ll, we’ll, we’ll, uh, we’ll do it again. I’m looking at the number now. So I know what it is. Yep. I am too. So, yeah. So yeah. So get all your friends, get all your friends to dial in. But until then, I think we’re going to wrap up. I got things to do. I’m actually going for on a road trip up to San Francisco. So I got all sorts of stuff I got to get done around the house before I can leave. So, uh, thanks for your travels with us. Yeah. Thank you. I plan on it. That is, that is the plan. Get, get to come and see the kid. My kid again, bonus, uh, just got verification from them today. If you’re going to tech, you’ll be able to meet one of my children. Uh, they will be at tech. They’re, they are working with us. Uh, they’re doing, um, social media marketing stuff for us.
[01:16:17] So that’s the reason they’re coming. But, you know, if you’ve gone in the past, you’ve met my wife, which was, for the record, the wife loved being referred to as the current wife the first couple of years. Well, I haven’t carried that joke over because, I don’t know, I just didn’t, I don’t know, I didn’t feel like it was appropriate. It wasn’t appropriate. That’s what made it so funny. But I didn’t want to do it again. But she loved being referred to as the current wife. The first couple of texts she came to is, oh, you’re the current wife.
[01:16:50] She wore it with pride. I think she even put it on her name tag. It’s the current wife. Oh.
[01:16:57] Yeah. So, yeah. Kid will be there. Maverick, I need to talk to you about it a little bit. But, yeah. Really excited to share that experience. I’m so lucky. I’m so fortunate. Like, my family doesn’t really… I mean, they now have a better understanding of what to do, but not, like… I’m happy that they want to participate and we, I can do something like this with them. So it’s a, it’s really cool. I appreciate it a lot.
[01:17:25] Yes. Duck nizzle. Thank you for asking. I mean, people watch this show a long time. Yes. It is pretty much done. There’s literally two strips of flooring. They need to do by two doors. That hasn’t been done. Cause they forgot. I don’t know what’s going to do, but yes, the house is normal. We actually had it done in time for Christmas. So we got to put up our decorations. We didn’t do the Halloween stuff because they were still doing, doing stuff. Yeah. Thank you for asking. It’s nice to have a house back and really excited. I have the funny thing about it is my front bedroom, which had to have a sink replaced in a vanity. I now have that done and two vanities in the bedroom that they bought and wouldn’t fit so I got these hey she called Jackie.
[01:18:25] Don’t give her any ideas yeah,
[01:18:30] call John’s wife and see if she wants another vanity get rid of this thing alright Risky Original if you’re still listening please respond to my DM. Yes, please. And with that. Thanks everybody for hanging out. Been a fantastic job. Love you. We will see you next week.
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| Air date | January 15, 2026 |
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| Hosted by | Eric Van Johnson, John Congdon |
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